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Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Truth & Justice is a true crowdsourced investigation in real time. Host, Bob Ruff, asks listeners to help with investigations as he takes on a new potential wrongful conviction case every season. The subject of Season 12 is a grizzly 2006 triple homicide, that occurred in Pinyon Pines, California. Three innocent people lost their lives, and many believe that Robert Pape and Cristin Smith were wrongfully convicted of the murders. Join the investigation, and together we'll find the truth!

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  • 05.10.2022
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    Bonus: Jeanie McDaniel Interview

    This bonus episode features a February 2007 Police interview with Becky's friend, Jeanie McDaniel. Jeanie shares some new details about Becky's relationship with Robert and with Javier in this interview. Is what she's saying accurate? It's up to you to decide. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 03.10.2022
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    Introducing - The ReWatcher: Buffy The Vampire Slayer

    Welcome to the Hellmouth Weirdos! Your favorite Morbid hosts Ash and Alaina are branching out from true crime and heading to Sunnydale for the ultimate Buffy the Vampire Slayer Rewatch podcast! Alaina is a Buffy superfan and Ash has never watched a single episode, so whether you’re Team Angel, Team Spike, or have no clue who those people are…they’ve got you covered! Join them each week as they slay their way through the series, episode by episode, re-watching, and watching for the very first time. They’ll break down Buffy and her friends' adventures through weekly recaps, categories, and awards while Ash takes some (wooden stake) stabs at predicting what she thinks will happen next. They'll also welcome the occasional Buffy cast member, guest star, or celebrity superfan to join in the slaying. Listen to The ReWatcher: wondery.fm/TJ_REWATCHER See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 02.10.2022
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    S12E28: Relationships

    After doing some deeper digging, Bob gives us a more concise analysis of the days we have covered so far, and then finishes off the details of the weekend. He also fill in some gaps and missing pieces, thanks to some great listener input. We also get introduced to a new "character" in this ongoing narrative. Thank you for your continued support in helping Kenny Snow transition home. You can donate to the GoFundMe here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/KennySnow?qid=b3bf631752d77498841721d6cf69e249 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 30.09.2022
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    S12E27: Follow-Up S12:E27

    This week, not only does the crew field some great listener questions and comments, but they also get the privilege of sharing even MORE good news regarding the subject of a previous T & J season! Donate to Kenny Snow's GoFundMe to help him transition home: https://www.gofundme.com/f/KennySnow?qid=d3b36a612d09a8d25376faeffe78ee45 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 25.09.2022
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    S12E27: Becky's Week

    In this week's episode, Bob starts by playing us a short police phone call with Javier, and then goes over the details of Becky's week. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 23.09.2022
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    S12E26: Follow-Up S12:E26

    This week, the crew goes over their thoughts about Episode 26, Family Ties. They also celebrate the good news about Adnan Syed's release from prison. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 18.09.2022
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    S12E26: Family Ties

    Today, Bob gives us a hybrid episode where he analyzes a few police interviews that were conducted with family members of Becky's friend group. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 16.09.2022
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    S12E25: Follow-Up S12:E25

    Today, Bob, Janet, and Zaq discuss their thoughts on this week's hybrid episode, "The Road to Austin Alba". We also have a lot of good questions and comments from the chat. Be sure to stay tuned until the very end to get the group's real-time reaction to the latest news on Adnan Syed. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 11.09.2022
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    S12E25: The Road to Austin Alba

    This week, Bob gives us the best of both worlds, with a combination of his classic narration style, and a very interesting interview with Austin Alba. This episode will be bringing our deep dive of the friend group to a close. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 09.09.2022
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    S12E24: Follow-Up S12:E24

    Let's hear what Bob, Janet, and Zaq have to say about Season 12, Episode 24: Beau Nash. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 04.09.2022
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    S12E24: Beau Nash

    In this second interview with Beau Nash, he rehashes the details of what he did on the night of the murders. You'll also hear things about Robert and Cristin that we haven't heard before. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 02.09.2022
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    S12E23: Follow-Up S12:E23

    Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss this week's "spider web" of an episode, and they give us a some clues about what's coming up next week! As always, you can listen ad-free, support the show, and get exclusive behind-the-scenes content by joining our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 28.08.2022
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    S12E23: Jessica Henry

    Today we hear Jessica Henry's police interview, in which she describes some of her odd interactions with - and observations about - Austin Alba. She also gives us more insight into Becky and Javier's relationship. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 26.08.2022
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    S12E22: Follow-Up S12:E22

    Bob, Janet, and Zaq discuss their thoughts about this week's episode, the interview with Nick Crum. What do you think? Agree? Disagree? Let's discuss it on social media. And don't forget... you can always listen ad-free by joining our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 24.08.2022
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    Bonus: Nick Crum's 2016 Interview

    This bonus episode features another phone interview between Nick Crum and the Police. In this instance, Nick calls Detective Bodmer on June 13, 2016. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 23.08.2022
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    Bonus: Nick Crum's 2015 Interview

    This bonus episode features Nick Crum's 3/25/15 interview with Police. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 21.08.2022
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    S12E22: Nick Crum

    After hearing his name on the podcast, today's guest reached out to Bob to give us his insight into the Pinyon Pines case. This is Episode 22, an interview with Nick Crum. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 19.08.2022
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    S12E21: Follow-Up S12:E21

    It's your Season 12, Episode 21 Follow-Up! Bob, Zaq, and Janet keep pulling at that figurative ball of yarn...continuing to follow those breadcrumbs... and, of course, digging down into all the rabbit holes. Enjoy this episode ad-free at Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 14.08.2022
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    S12E21: Alex

    Bob continues to pull on the figurative "ball of yarn" to see what unravels. Today we hear an interview with someone we haven't heard from yet, Alex Foulan.... and it's not at all what we were expecting. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 12.08.2022
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    S12E20: Follow-Up S12:E20

    Ahoy friends! There are A LOT of listener questions that Bob & Zanet go over today while Jack is on assignment. Get ready for a Friday Follow-Up chock full of details. Want to listen ad-free? Join our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 07.08.2022
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    S12E20: Puzzle Pieces

    Bob brings us more information and shares some interesting interviews with us in the Pinyon Pines case. We hear clips of Austin Alba, Beau Nash, Jacob Santiago, and Nick Coraline. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 05.08.2022
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    S12E19: Follow-Up S12:E19

    Bob, Zaq, and Janet discuss their thoughts on all the discrepancies in this week's episode with the Cory Donovan interview. Listeners give their input and ask some great questions. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon ! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 31.07.2022
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    S12E19: Cory Donovan's Interview

    This episode may change everything you think you know about the Pinyon Pines case so far. Grab a pen and a notebook... and listen close. This is the interview with Cory Donovan. Want to hear it ad-free? Join our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 29.07.2022
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    S12E18: Follow-Up S12:S18

    Ahoy, Friends! Bob's back from assignment! Jack and Zanet are super excited to catch up with Bob about everything that took place in the Pinyon Pines case while he was away. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon ! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 24.07.2022
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    S12E18: Jacob Santiago's Interview

    Becky's ex-Boyfriend, Jacob Santiago, was interviewed by police three days after her body was discovered. Becky had broken up with Jacob two days before the murders. This is Jacob's 9/20/06 police interview. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 22.07.2022
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    S12E17: Follow-Up S12:E17

    It's the Truth & JUST US Friday Follow-Up! Zaq and Janet discuss everything that Dr. Shiloh and Dr. Scott laid out for them in this week's full episode, "The Doctors Return." See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 17.07.2022
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    S12E17: The Doctors Return

    Janet and Zaq steer the ship while Bob is away on assignment. Special guests, Dr. Shiloh and Dr. Scott from the L.A. Not So Confidential Podcast, join us today to discuss details of Javier's full interview. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 15.07.2022
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    S12E16: Follow-Up S12:E16

    Bob, Zaq, and Janet go over the details of this week's fact-filled episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 11.07.2022
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    Introducing: Who Killed Daphne?

    When a car bomb kills Daphne Caruana Galizia on the beautiful Mediterranean island of Malta, the hunt for her killers exposes secrets with consequences that go far beyond its shores. In the aftermath of her death an international team of journalists comes together to continue her work. Along the way they start to uncover clues that might lead to her killers. From Wondery, comes a new story about power, corruption and one woman’s fight for the truth. Hosted by investigative reporter Stephen Grey. Listen to Who Killed Daphne? - wondery.fm/TandJ_DAPHNE See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 10.07.2022
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    S12E16: Back On Track

    Bob dives deeper than ever into the Pinyon Pines case. We hear an interview with Sam Gayer, friend of Robert and Cristin. We also get to be co-pilots on a virtual, minute-by-minute breakdown of the route down the mountain. Want to listen ad-free? Join our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 08.07.2022
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    S12E15: Follow-Up S12:E15

    Today Bob, Janet and Zaq chat about the plethora of information we heard in Javier's full interview. They also share a West Memphis Three update. Want to listen to every episode ad-free? Join our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 03.07.2022
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    S12E15: Javier's Full Interview

    Today we hear Javier's full interview. Grab a pen and paper, because this one is chock-full of information. Want to listen ad-free? Join our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 01.07.2022
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    S12E14: Follow-Up S12:E14

    Today you'll hear Bob, Zaq & Janet talk more about the WM3 ruling, as well as all the details of this past week's episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 28.06.2022
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    S5E44: WM3 Ruling Explained

    Bob breaks down the events of last week. The way Supporters were treated at the hearing, the ruling and the next steps in our fight for the truth. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 26.06.2022
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    S12E14: An Interview with Javier

    This week, we listen to two interviews with Javier to see what additional info we can gather. What are your thoughts? Be sure to tell us on the Truth & Justice Instagram page ! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 24.06.2022
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    S12E13: Follow-Up S12:E13

    In a rare, night-time recording of the Friday Follow-Up, Bob & Zap join Janet as they have a lively discussion about the phone pings and cell phone tower data. Listen ad-free by joining Patreon ! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 20.06.2022
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    Wondery Presents: The Execution of Bonny Lee Bakley

    On May 4, 2001, Bonny Lee Bakley was found fatally shot in a car on a dark North Hollywood street. The prime suspect was her husband, famed actor Robert Blake. But Bonny, a longtime con artist, had plenty of enemies. She left behind a trail of men she’d scammed, and she had a volatile relationship with Christian Brando, the troubled son of movie star Marlon Brando. Not since the O.J. Simpson case had the eyes of the nation been so fixated on a homicide. The search for Bonny’s killer took detectives on an eleven-month odyssey across the country and through Hollywood's underbelly of hustlers, drug addicts, and would-be hitmen. It would be the most expensive murder investigation in LAPD history to date. This is the story of Robert and Bonny’s toxic relationship, her shocking murder, and his chaotic trial. Did actor Robert Blake kill his wife? Or was the murder someone else's vendetta? From Wondery, and the team behind the hit series Hollywood & Crime (The Dating Game Killer, The Wonderland Murders, Death of Starlet) comes a six-part series about love, obsession and fame gone wrong. Co-hosted by Tracy Pattin and Josh Lucas. wondery.fm/TandJ_TEOBLB See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 19.06.2022
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    S12E13: Pings

    Last week, Bob gave us a thorough analysis of the cell phone records of everyone involved in the case, but this week, we go even further down the habit hole. Don't be surprised if you have some lightbulb moments during this episode. Be sure to post your questions, comments, and epiphanies on our social media! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 17.06.2022
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    S12E12: Follow-Up S12:E12

    Janet is back from Europe and joins Bob and Zap to discuss the phone records. The online chat is bursting with listener questions and comment that you won't want to miss! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 14.06.2022
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    Bonus: Conversation w/ Cell Phone Expert

    This bonus episode is raw and unedited. In this week's main episode Bob asked listeners if they would like to hear the conversation he had with Cell Expert, Ian Patterson. A lot of listeners wanted to hear it, so here it is. Please forgive the roughness of the sound quality. This is for reference purposes and is not edited as a normal episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 12.06.2022
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    S12E12: A Game of Telephone

    It's time to review the cell phone records of the key players involved in this case. Grab a pen and a note pad, put on your best listening ears...because we've A LOT of things to talk about. Want to support the show AND get all episodes AD-FREE? Join our PATREON! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 10.06.2022
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    S12E11: Follow-Up S12:E11

    Janet joins Bob and Zaq from across the pond to chat about Bob's final episode with Jim Clemente. They also clear up a few questions and concerns from listeners. Listen ad-free by joining our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 06.06.2022
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    Introducing - Persona: The French Deception

    Introducing the true crime podcast Persona: The French Deception— the story of Gilbert Chikli, one of the greatest con artists of all time. What does it feel like to pick up the phone and scam someone out of $50 million? Host and award-winning journalist, Evan Ratliff, investigates how Chikli successfully duped some of the world’s most powerful people into handing over their fortunes. He explores how Chikli evaded the law for years and became a Robin Hood-like hero. More than just a tale of criminal genius, this is a show about the moment we’re living in right now — the golden age of scammers — and the power of seduction. But what happens when the fantasy we’ve been lured into finally crumbles away? For all that and more, follow “Persona: The French Deception” wherever you get your podcasts. Or you can listen early on Amazon Music or early and ad-free by subscribing to Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery app: wondery.fm/TaJ_Persona See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 05.06.2022
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    S12E11: Jim Clemente Part 3

    Today's the day you've been waiting for... the third and final installment of Bob's chat with former FBI profiler, Jim Clemente. Will they finally see eye to eye on who the real target was and the killer's level of criminal sophistication? Or will they agree to disagree? Want to hear this episode ad-free, as well as get lots of perks and bonus content? Join our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 03.06.2022
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    S12E10: Follow-Up S12:E10

    Bob and Zaq are joined by Janet as she's "on assignment" in the UK. The crew discusses Bob's previous episode with Jim Clemente, fielding some listener comments and reactions. What will the Jim Clemente part 3 finale bring? Tune in on Sunday to find out! Last day for buying your Test The F**cking Evidence t-shirts is today! GET IT NOW! Want all your episodes ad-free, with exclusive bonus content? Join our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 29.05.2022
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    S12E10: Jim Clemente Part 2

    Bob continues his discussion with former FBI profiler, Jim Clemente. One of them sees a level of criminal sophistication in the Pinyon Pines murders. The other thinks the killers were amateurs who botched the job. Now, what do YOU think? See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 27.05.2022
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    S12E9: Follow-Up S12:E9

    Bob, Janet, and Zaq discuss the Jim Clemente episodes so far, and the gang receives some ground-breaking insights from our listeners. Want to listen to every episode, ad-free, and get access to exclusive content? Join our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 22.05.2022
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    S12E9: Jim Clemente Part 1

    Today, Bob is joined by former FBI profiler, Jim Clemente. They discuss the details of the case in order to narrow down who the target may have been. Want to listen ad-free? Become a Patron! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 15.05.2022
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    S12E8: The Autopsies

    In this episode, Bob goes through the autopsy reports, which are...pretty short, for lack of a better word. However, they do give us a slightly better idea of the damage sustained to the bodies in the fire. As always, you can go to our website, truthjusticepod.com , for photos, documents, and more info. Want to support the show? Join our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 13.05.2022
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    S12E7: Follow-Up S12: E7

    Bob, Janet and Zaq discuss the fires more in-depth. They contemplate where they may have started, and the possible order of events. And as always, they take some great listener questions. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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