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Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Truth & Justice is a true crowdsourced investigation in real time. Host, Bob Ruff, asks listeners to help with investigations as he takes on a new potential wrongful conviction case every season. The subject of Season 12 is a grizzly 2006 triple homicide, that occurred in Pinyon Pines, California. Three innocent people lost their lives, and many believe that Robert Pape and Cristin Smith were wrongfully convicted of the murders. Join the investigation, and together we'll find the truth!

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  • 15.05.2022
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    S12E8: The Autopsies

    In this episode, Bob goes through the autopsy reports, which are...pretty short, for lack of a better word. However, they do give us a slightly better idea of the damage sustained to the bodies in the fire. As always, you can go to our website, truthjusticepod.com , for photos, documents, and more info. Want to support the show? Join our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 13.05.2022
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    S12E7: Follow-Up S12: E7

    Bob, Janet and Zaq discuss the fires more in-depth. They contemplate where they may have started, and the possible order of events. And as always, they take some great listener questions. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 08.05.2022
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    S12E7: The Fires

    In today's episode, Bob uses his experience as a firefighter to break down all the details of the fatal Pinyon Pines fire. Where did the fires start? What was the point of origin? Listen now to find out the answers to your questions. Want access to exclusive, behind-the-scenes content on the Pinyon Pines case and more? Join our Patreon! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 06.05.2022
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    JonBenét Ramsey Bonus Follow-Up

    Today's episode is a follow-up to the bonus JonBenét Ramsey live show you heard with Bob, The Captain, and Kelli. Bob, Janet, and Zaq discuss details of the JonBenét Ramsey case, CrimeCon highlights, and they even take a few Pinyon Pines questions. Ready to join the Truth and Justice Army? Join our Patreon for exclusive content! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 01.05.2022
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    Bob & The Captain Debate JonBenét Ramsey Case

    Welcome to the live show, from Grand Rapids, MI! Bob, The Captain, and Kelli discuss one of the most-hotly debated cases in America. Want the full show? Join our Patreon for exclusive access! Visit today's Sponsors: Better Help , June's Journey, Topic, and The Jordan Harbinger Show! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 29.04.2022
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    S12E6: Follow-Up S12: E6

    Bob, Zaq and Janet go over some more details of the crime scene, and some of this week's listener questions prove that the Truth & Justice Army is brilliant! Visit our website at: truthandjusticepod.com Follow our new Instagram page @truthjusticepod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 24.04.2022
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    S12E6: The Crime Scene

    Starting with the 911 call, Bob discusses the timeline of the night and the details of the crime scene. Who was the anonymous stranger in the truck that firefighters saw while en route to the house? Why did investigators miss so many pieces of potentially crucial evidence? Listen now, as Bob breaks down even more details of this very complicated case. For more information, visit our website at TruthandJusticePod.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 22.04.2022
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    S12E5: Follow-Up S12: E5

    Bob and Zaq join Janet for a YouTube Live to discuss some questions that linger about the case. What's the story with the money? Who was Becky living with her Senior year? Listen now to hear their thoughts. For more information, go to our website at: TruthAndJusticePod.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 17.04.2022
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    S12E5: A Broader Look

    Bob takes a closer look into the victimology of Jon, Vicki and Becky. We hear never before heard interviews with Jon's co-workers, and their neighbors. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 15.04.2022
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    S12E4: Follow-Up S12: E4

    Back from "assignment", Bob and Zaq join Janet for a YouTube Live session to answer listener questions. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 10.04.2022
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    S12E4: The Interview

    Bob is joined by two Forensic Psychologists, Dr. Shiloh and Dr. Scott, from the LA Not So Confidential podcast. The Docs have been kind enough to spend a week analyzing Robert Pape’s interview, and they’re here today to break down their thoughts. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 01.04.2022
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    S12E3: Follow-Up S12: E3

    Bob and co-hosts take on social media questions while recording on YouTube Live. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 27.03.2022
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    S12E3: The Hike

    As we continue to try to piece together Becky’s movements on the day of the murders, Bob shares two very important police interviews. First we hear from the source of the hiking trip info, Javier Garcia, Jr. Then we hear from Becky’s ex-boyfriend Robert, as he speaks to police about his plans with Becky. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 25.03.2022
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    S12E2: Follow-Up S12: E2

    Bob, Zaq and Janet discuss listener questions from both social media and Youtube Live. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 20.03.2022
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    S12E2: Becky’s Day

    Bob discusses the victimology of Vickie, Jon and Becky. We hear original police interviews that help to piece together Becky’s movements on the day of the murders. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 18.03.2022
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    S12: E1 Follow-Up

    Bob, Zaq and Janet discuss listener questions over Youtube Live for the first Follow-Up in Season 12. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 13.03.2022
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    S12E1: Up The Hill

    In this Season 12 Premiere episode, Bob begins to the lay out the very basics of what is sure to be a complex case. On Sunday September 17, 2006, the small unincorporated community of Pinyon Pines, CA was rocked by one of the most horrific and baffling crimes that we’ve ever investigated on this podcast. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 11.03.2022
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    Reporting on WM3

    Bob interviews Jonesboro Reporter, George Jared. George has been reporting on the WM3 case since 2008. He sat through the entire Rule 37 hearing, and has the inside scoop on the latest developments. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 06.03.2022
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    A Strong Response

    Bob breaks down the latest filing in the WM3 case, followed by fielding questions from a Facebook Live Q&A. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 04.03.2022
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    Andrew Collins Follow-Up

    Bob and Zaq welcome Janet Varney onto the show in her first Follow-Up as a permanent co-host. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 27.02.2022
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    Andrew Collins - A Crooked Cop

    Andrew Collins speaks with Bob about the slippery slope that led him down the path of a corrupt police officer. He tells the story of how he framed an innocent man, and then later traded places with him in prison. His shocking story contains valuable lessons about how and why wrongful convictions happen. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 25.02.2022
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    Jesse Crossen Follow-Up

    The guys take on listener questions for Mike's last episode behind the microphone. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 20.02.2022
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    Jesse Crosson on Prison Reform

    Bob interviews Jesse Crosson. At 18 years old Jesse pled guilty to robbery and unlawful wounding, which carried a max sentence of 16 years in prison. The Judge however decided to make an example of Jesse, and sentenced him to twice the max penalty, 32 years. Jesse turned his life around in prison. He worked hard to earn a Bachelors degree, and committed his time to helping educate other prisoners. He even started a podcast called "Pre-Zen: Lessons from Lockup" while incarcerated. This past August, he was granted clemency from Governor Ralph Northam. He's now dedicated his life to prison reform, using his experiences from the inside to guide his quest. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 18.02.2022
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    Kelsi German Follow-Up w/ Janet Varney

    Mike is out on assignment, so Zaq and Bob are joined by the amazing Janet Varney! The trio field questions from listeners about the Delphi Case, WM3, the Super Bowl Halftime show, and more. Make sure you stay tuned till the end for a HUGE announcement about the future of Truth & Justice. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 13.02.2022
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    Kelsi German

    On the 5 year anniversary of the murders of Abby Williams and Libby German, Bob invites Libby’s sister Kelsi on the show to take some time to remember Libby. The tragedy knows as the Delphi Murders has sent shockwaves of trauma throughout the world. Oftentimes lost in the shuffle is the family of the victims. Today’s episode is not a case discussion. Instead Bob wanted to hear more about Libby, and Kelsi’s life navigating these last 5 years. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 11.02.2022
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    Velez Update Follow-Up

    The guys answer questions gathered from social media after Sunday's episode where Bob interviewed Lisa Brat Martinez in an update episode on the Pablo Velez case. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 06.02.2022
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    Pablo Velez Update

    Bob is joined by Pablo’s advocate and partner Lisa “Brat” Martinez to breakdown the Harris County’s latest filing on the appeal. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 04.02.2022
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    MVAC - Jared Bradley Follow-Up

    The guys answer listener questions from Facebook and Youtube regarding MVac testing of the DNA in the Forgotten West Memphis Three case. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 30.01.2022
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    MVAC w/ Jared Bradley

    Bob interviews the President and CEO of MVAC Technologies. The MVAC system was created by Jared’s father, and wasn’t originally used for DNA extraction. Jarred explains the origin of the technology, how it works, and how it may help to finally solve the WM3 case. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 28.01.2022
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    Maggie Freleng Follow-Up

    The guys answer listener questions after Bob's interview with Maggie Freleng. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 23.01.2022
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    Maggie Freleng

    Bob is joined by friend and fellow podcaster Maggie Freleng. The two catch up on life in general, and dig into Maggie’s trials and tribulations creating “Murder in Alliance”. Also Maggie let’s us know about some up and coming projects. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 21.01.2022
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    Josh Hallmark Follow-Up

    The guys are back in the studio to take on listener questions on both Bob's interview with Josh Hallmark, as well as the recent developments in the West Memphis Three case. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 16.01.2022
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    Josh Hallmark

    Bob is joined by his friend and fellow investigative podcaster, Josh Hallmark. Josh is the creator and host of True Crime Bullsh**. Recently his efforts resulted in the identification of of a John Doe, and simultaneously solved a years old missing persons case. He’s here to discuss. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 14.01.2022
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    Jim Clemente Follow-Up

    In this episode, the guys broadcast live over Youtube to take on listener questions. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 09.01.2022
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    Jim Clemente

    Bob is joined by his mentor and friend of the show, Jim Clemente. Jim is a former New York City Prosecutor and retired Supervisory Special Agent with the FBI’s Behavioral Analysis Unit. He has now moved on to running his own production company XG Productions. Jim joins Bob to discuss some of his most recent projects in the true crime space. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 07.01.2022
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    Jesse Eldridge Follow-Up

    The guys discuss listener questions from social media after Bob's catch-up with Jesse Eldridge in Sunday's episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 02.01.2022
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    Jesse Eldridge

    In this emotional interview, Jesse shares his frustration over delays in his case. It’s now been over 2 years since Troy recanted his trial testimony, and Jesse still sits in prison waiting to make the case for his innocence. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 31.12.2021
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    Mara Leveritt Follow-Up

    The guys answer listener questions after Bob's interview with Mara Leveritt, as well as address the major updates in the West Memphis Three case. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 19.12.2021
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    Mara Leveritt

    Bob interviews Mara Leveritt. Mara is the well known author who wrote the groundbreaking book “The Devil’s Knot”. The book represents several years on investigative work done by Mara, as she takes an extremely deep dive into the West Memphis Three case. Her book was later turned into a movie staring Reese Witherspoon. Mara continues to work on the case even to this day. Most recently she has filed FOIA requests with the WMPD asking for the location of evidence. Last week she received a production finally that tells us what evidence is still available for testing and where it’s located. Today's Sponsor: tommyjohn.com/truth - Get $20 off site wide. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 17.12.2021
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    Facebook Live Follow-Up

    Bob and Mike record the show on Facebook Live to interact with listeners on social media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 12.12.2021
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    Jamie Snow

    Jamie Snow was the subject of our Season 7. Since we wrapped Season 7 Jamie has continued to fight for his freedom. He joins Bob today to update us on his progress. Today's Sponsor: greenchef.com/justice10 - Use code "justice10" to get 10 free meals including free shipping,. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 10.12.2021
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    Ates Bonus Follow-Up

    The guys take any questions in this Friday Follow-Up after Sunday's episode where Bob caught up with Kim and Ed Ates. Today's Sponsors: Best Fiends - Download Best Fiends free today on the App Store or Google Play. betterhelp.com/truth - Get 10% off your first month. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 05.12.2021
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    Ed & Kim Ates

    Bob is joined by the man who was released after spending 20 years in prison, in part thanks to the Truth & Justice Army. Ed Ates was convicted for the 1993 murder of Elnora Griffin. In September of 2018, Ed was finally allowed to walk free, while still maintaining his innocence. Bob checks in with Ed and his wife Kim to see how the last three years have been going. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 03.12.2021
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    S11E7: Follow-Up S11: E7

    In the last Follow-Up episode for Season 11, Bob interviews Pablo Velez. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 28.11.2021
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    S11E7: The Legal Battle

    Bob speaks with Pablo’s attorney, Herman Yue. Herman breaks down Pablo’s case, explains the path ahead, and asks for help from the Truth & Justice Army. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 26.11.2021
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    S11E6: Follow-Up S11: E6

    The guys take on listener questions as Season 11 winds down to a close. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 14.11.2021
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    S11E6: An Ambush

    Bob reveals new evidence that paints a very clear picture of what actually happened outside of the Perfect Rack on 7/15/2004. We learn about evidence that connects the three main suspects to the crime, and what Detectives King, Swainson, and ADA Bogar KNEW about the dangerous men that they left on the streets of Houston. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 12.11.2021
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    S11E5: Follow-Up S11: E5

    Bob, Zaq and Mike are back in the studio to answer listener questions gathered from social media. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 08.11.2021
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    Introducing: Operator

    During the 1-900 number craze of the Nineties, one company provided the vast majority of phone sex. American Telnet was an empire founded by the man who called himself “The Telephone Pimp.” He ran the company “like General Motors” and got filthy rich doing it. But for the (mostly) women who answered the calls and delivered fantasies 24-7, it was a different story. The powerful stigma against sex work was always lurking just beneath the surface, until it threatened to tear apart the whole company. Hosted by Tina Horn (Why Are People Into That?), OPERATOR is an eight-part series about big ambitions, Shakespearean-level corporate backstabbing, men and women at the cutting edge of a technological revolution...and on the front lines of a sexual one. Listen to Operator now! http://wondery.fm/OP_Truth_and_Justice See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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  • 07.11.2021
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    S11E5: Superman

    Bob breaks down the forensics from the crime scene, Emerson’s autopsy report, and we hear from a key witness that never testified at trial. Today's Sponsor: greenchef.com/justice125 - Use code "justice125" for $125 off including free shipping. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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